Sunday, November 25, 2007

Ghetto Nation & Savage Inequalities Period 5 Group 2


Members:

Danielle S5
Mario R5
Diana P5
Kenneth M5

WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 28TH
due date to finish reading Ghetto Nation.

SATURDAY DECEMBER 1ST.
Post the first blog about ghetto Nation

SATURDAY DECEMBER 8TH
Secong blog post on Ghetto Nation

WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 12TH
due date to be done reading the second book.

SATURDAY DECEMBER 15
1st blog post on second book

WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 19
Last blog on second book due

FRIDAY DECEMBER 21
Final bog posts due on both books.

18 comments:

Kenneth M5 said...
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Kenneth M5 said...

I think the point of this book is to open your eyes to what ghetto is, where it comes from, who lives that life, and why they live that way they do. I think that most teenagers have the ethic that Daniels suggests in how they think that live for today because tomorrow is never promised, but most people mature out of that view. I think the overall point of this book to take the glamour out of ghetto, but also point out that everyone is a little but ghetto. We need to be like Daniel Howard on page 75 and get out.

Do you think Malden is ghetto? If you do how do you think it got that way, and if you don’t what makes Malden remain ghetto-free? I personally think that most of Malden is very ghetto because we have our “gangs” and drunkards not thinking enough about their futures. How many people do you know personally that you think will never be able to leave Malden for bigger and better things? I’d say most people are stuck here because they live outside there means (which Daniels suggested numerous times in Ghetto Nation). I hate when I see people living in the projects drive nicer cars than my mother, who has worked all her life. This concept of nicer cars, but “still living with your mama”(117) is a very hypercritical way to live your life. I think we need to instill values that are based on finding yourself and living your life based on that instead of getting the money and wearing “bling”

Mario R. 5 said...

kenny i agree with on, cora daniels pupose for writing the book ghetto nation. I do believe that she wrote the book to show us this concept of ghetto and why people love to live by it.

The one thing that i like about the book was it had all the things that we from malden in malden. the things make so diversity. like how we have these kids thinking their "gangstars" and rather sell drugs then do a little work in school. to answer the question if i think malden is ghetto i say yes i personal i believe i think it got this way because of the media people only do what they see on television, and not everyone is like that alot of kids do want get out like daniel but its just hard for something kids do to their surroundings.

Mario R. 5 said...

I was woundering what you guys thouht about how the author ends the every chapter with thats so ghetto. why did she choice these words to end every chapter with

Kenneth M5 said...

I think she ended each chapter with those "That's so Ghetto"s for a comic relief, the rest of the book is more critical of the ghetto thinking. The "That's so Ghetto"s would give anyone a little chuckle. The little snippets of information, also, didn't fit in any chapter perfectly.

Danielle S. 5 said...

schedule

sorry for the delay

WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 28TH
due date to finish reading Ghetto Nation.

SATURDAY DECEMBER 1ST.
Post the first blog about ghetto Nation

SATURDAY DECEMBER 8TH
Secong blog post on Ghetto Nation

WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 12TH
due date to be done reading the secong book.

SATURDAY DECEMBER 15
1st blog post on secong book

WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 19
Last blog on secong book due

FRIDAY DECEMBER 21
Final bog posts due on both books.

Danielle S. 5 said...

Kenny I think you brought out a very good point. To answer your question of whether or not I think Malden is ghetto is no I don’t think Malden is ghetto I think honestly Malden is a pretty good city with good people it a lot better than some of our surrounding cities and town but I do think that the mind set of some maldonians is indeed ghetto. Going back on what Mario said about people being so easily influenced by the media is very true and I think that is a cause to the Ghetto mindset of some Malden residents. Also Kenny you mentioned how people that live in the projects drive better cars than that of your mothers my thought on that is kind of mixed I do semi agree with you that it’s a little different that people of lower income are driving a better car than you mothers it brings the thought to our head of how did they get the money to pay for these cars drug dealing ? Prostitution? With that in mind I also think it’s a little unfair to judge these people so harshly in the end we don’t know how they got the money to have such nice car in fact we don’t even know if they bought the cars they have someone else could have bought it for them like a very close family member that cared greatly for them.

Mario R. 5 said...

I was wondering if anyone else had an opinion on why cora daniels wrote the book "ghetto nation"?

I think that she wrote this book to show how we as a people flip the whole concept on the word ghetto from being this place that poor immangrants were shoved into, now a days it is taken more lightly more like a good thing then a bad then. The reason that i believe this because she gets out of this ghetto and she knows that life is no way to live. example of how it is taken as a good thing is when she the girls sweet 16 and she choose to play the song 99 promblems and she says now thats ghetto.

Mario R. 5 said...

I was having a litte trouble understanding what daniels is trying to say when she says "I am ghetto. I am not ghetto. I am you.”(22). I was wondering your guys opinion on this part. like why does she say this what is cora daniels purpose for inserting this sentence in to the book?

Diana P5 said...

Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted yet but Kenny I agree with "the point of this book is to open your eyes to what ghetto is, where it comes from, who lives that life, and why they live that way they do." The opening of the book Daniels sets us up in her surroundings and lets us know about her. I too have live in Brooklyn New York so most of what she was saying I was able to relate to. Where she writes the book I haven’t really been around but the whole talk about systems in the car and the reference to Hip Hop were ways that she expressed/gave examples to things that where found to be ghetto. To answer your question Malden itself isn’t ghetto. I agree with Daniels when she said that ghetto is a state of mind not an actual thing. Certain people in Malden you can say are ghetto but not the actual city. A city I don’t think can be ghetto. For example of what I mean, Malden High can be seen as ghetto because the mice that run around the schools. The amount of water that the ceilings leek when it rains. I’ve walked down the hallway on a sunny day and the ceilings where still leaking water. That I would say is ghetto. The “Malden Gangs” are representing street corners when they all grew up together so I wouldn’t call that ghetto just stupid.


My question though is throughout the book Daniels writes both in slang then she flips back to correct grammar do you think there is a reason for why she does this?

By the way Mr. G there is only one D in my name…..
And Danielle I think you wee suppose to email the schedule to Mr. G

Diana P5 said...

correction i ment "N" not "D" sorry

Mr. G said...

got it D...sorry bout that

Mr. G said...

Okay y'all--you are all super behind. Compare the depth of your entries (length and attention to the book) with the two classes from Period 6 to get the idea...(and they are not even all up to pace if you read my comment.)

Blog on bloggers. You have a bunch of work to catch up on.

Kenneth M5 said...

Hey, the I am ghetto, I'm not ghetto is suppose to highlight the fact that everyone has ghetto qualities. She does things that are attention getting and ignorant, and she accepts that. She knows she does things that, had she truely thought about, she wouldn't have done. They seemed fun at the time, and the moment was more important than the effect. Its also to highlight the fact that all of us have some sort of ghetto attitude that comes out at times. She wants to let it be known that it isn't just a terrible thing to be ghetto as long as you take steps to make it not a common happening.

Kenneth M5 said...

Daniels suggest that "you can find examples" of ghetto "in every social ranking, regardless of band account since, of how parenthood has fallen off its pedestal.”(131) I think its interesting that people assume you learn from your parents, but at the same time kids rebel from the parent figures. I’m curious if anyone else thinks that placing blame on anyone besides oneself is accurate. I’m a firm believer that where you go comes from yourself, not anyone else. Most people look for excuses to do less for themselves, but ask for more. This is a very ghetto way of looking at things. It makes me wonder why some people are here, honesty. It is a very strong way of looking at things, but everyone should serve there purpose first, then have their fun later.

Kenneth M5 said...

we did read the N word right, because thats what I was told to do...?

Kenneth M5 said...

I'll start with the cover, which I borrowed the concept of discussing from the period 6, group 2. I really think it really helps the message of the book. The most prominent thing you see in the red-orange “N”. It screams that it needs to be noticed. I think the color choice and centered nature of the “N” is suppose to highlight that fact that we have to pay attention to how we use the word and that it should be discussed. You then notice that something got scribbled out. It looks like it was done with a crayon. Crayons are normally associated with child art and isn’t found as often in mature paintings. This could show how anyone, even children or the uneducated, should understand that the “N” word shouldn’t be used as it is now. There is even an “e” and an “r” to show that the word the was scribbled out was in fact the “n” word.

Mr. G said...

No one in this group satisfactorily completed the assignments?